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2023 Dynasty Rookie Post-Draft Update: Puka Nacua

We focus on each rookie’s situation, talent, opportunity, risk, and market to provide post-draft analysis for dynasty managers.

Puka Nucua

We focus on each rookie's situation, talent, opportunity, risk, and market to provide post-draft analysis for dynasty managers.

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2023 Dynasty Rookie Post-Draft Update: Puka Nacua
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STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

Puca worries me a bit – have we learned nothing from Jalen Tolbert or Romeo Doubs last year? Loads of post-draft buzz, clear path to opportunity, etc. – and yet no production to speak of. I picked him up wherever he went undrafted, but I feel that the twitter hype is a little OTT now. I’ll sell as soon as he pops in pre-season

Randy Meador
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

But how many players have benefitted from the clear path to opportunity? The writer isn’t suggesting putting a whole ton of faith and value into this guy, just putting out there some reasoning why he might succeed in LA and that he may be a guy who can develop into having some decent value someday. Also, Doubs didn’t do that bad last year, considering he did miss 4 games. If he played the full 17 games, he was on pace for 55 catches. That’s not bad at all for a 4th round rookie.

STEVEN PAYNE
Reply to  Randy Meador
2 days ago

I wasn’t taking a pop at the writer, just saying that we’ve been down this path with off-season long-shot dynasty darlings before. Agree that for his draft capital, Doubs did OK, but he also underperformed versus the hype he was getting in pre-season. I sold him for a 2023 2nd before he’d played an NFL snap after picking him up as a UDFA… even if he takes a step up this year, that’s a deal I’m still doing every time, including for Puca

Andrew Styles
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

I’d like some of what you are smoking if you think that Doubs underperformed compared to expectations. If anything, Doubs vastly outperformed expectations. Please feel free to site your sources as far as any projections of his that were higher than the actual stats he ended up putting up.

STEVEN PAYNE
Reply to  Andrew Styles
2 days ago

I’m talking about the hype Doubs was getting at this time last year – and yes there were plenty of people in leagues who thought they’d got a sleeper hit on their hands for 2022. I know, because I took advantage of them wherever possible. The only projection that matters at the moment is when people project their hopes and dreams onto long shot players like Doubs, Nacua etc. before they’ve done anything

Andrew Styles
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

Really hate to break it to you, but you are making up this level of hype in your head pal

Andrew Styles
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

Romeo Doubs had no production to speak of….?

STEVEN PAYNE
Reply to  Andrew Styles
2 days ago

Not compared to the expectations that were being talked about with him before the season started. I was just pointing out that Puca is the next in a long line of late round WR’s that we pin our hopes on, but that are realistically highly unlikely to pan out. Not saying Doubs can’t be better this year (in fact I fully expect him to be) – but the process move with these guys where possible is to take the profit and run

Last edited 2 days ago by STEVEN PAYNE
Andrew Styles
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

Nobody was pinning their hopes on Doubs and nobody was projecting that he would do better than he ended up doing. Doubs definitely outperformed expectations so your comparison is way off base.

STEVEN PAYNE
Reply to  Andrew Styles
2 days ago

That’s just patently untrue. Why was I able to sell him for 2023 2nds in multiple leagues if people weren’t buying into him being a thing in 2022? How many people would give you a 2nd round pick for Doubs now? A year ago he was WR 36 on KTC. 36! Now he’s WR 59, which feels about right to me

Andrew Styles
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

Let’s see the screenshots of these trades, with the dates of the transactions. Were all of these “trades”before the 2023 season even started? If not, then those trades are irrelevant, since we aren’t talking about “hype” anymore once a rookie starts the season and enters the production phase. I would not be shocked if some knucklehead in your league gave you a 2 after he was starting to put up numbers for that stretch.

STEVEN PAYNE
Reply to  Andrew Styles
2 days ago

Dude I can’t post screenshots on here, what is this madness. I can tell you just from a quick glance at Sleeper that in one league I traded Doubs away for a 2023 2nd on August 23rd, 2022 – which was.. *glances at calendar* …before the season started. You think I have nothing better to do than lie in the comments of a DLF article?? The Doubs Hive really is sensitive

Andrew Styles
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
2 days ago

Congrats on being in a league with idiots? Not sure what to tell you my man but you are certainly inventing this notion that Doubs was overhyped compared to his actual production but go off

Randy Meador
Reply to  STEVEN PAYNE
1 day ago

You act like everyone thought Doubs would be an 80+ catch 1,000 yard machine right out of the gate. Hardly anyone even fathomed that.

STEVEN PAYNE
Reply to  Randy Meador
1 day ago

Man are we still talking about this? “Everyone”? Where did I say that? I’m acting like a decent number of people got way over their skis on Doubs last off-season, and that’s an opportunity to capitalize because so few of these long shot players ever pan out. It may well be the same for Nacua. The one time a Doubs/Nacua level talent does turn into a superstar, the manager who sold him will kick themselves, sure – but process over results every time

Wendell Bera
1 day ago

Obviously, initially there was little hype surrounding Doubs in your league as you were able to pick him up as a UDFA. Yours is the 1st I’ve heard of where he went undrafted. In all the leagues I participated in (all within 2 weeks of the draft) he was a mid-late 3rd rnd pick. All the high expectations fell into Watson’s lap not his. His production IMO more than exceeded what you would expect from a 4th rnd rookie. His value was pushed up over the summer because 1. He was in a wide open WR room tied to Aaron Rogers, 2.It was thought that GB would bring in a vet presence like OBJ/Hopkins that never materalized 3. a few puff pieces during the preseason. Noone expectd him to come in and be anything more than what he was. Anyone expecting much more than what he did, means they are really suffering from rookie fever or need to take off thier rose colored glasses. The fact that you were able to flip him for a 2nd round pick dosen’t automatically make him an overhyped player, only that he was sevearly under valued. You capitalized and were able to get something closer to, if not more than his current value. The question becomes, who did you draft with the pick(s) you obtained and how will thier futures compare?

STEVEN PAYNE
Reply to  Wendell Bera
1 day ago

I didn’t draft anyone in the end, I traded it straight up for Justin Fields when he was bottoming out in the early part of the season. The pick eventually turned out to be the 2.10, so even in a 1QB league that’s ludicrous value

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